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he was a chairman of mitt romney's campaign this year. he hosted a luncheon for big time republican bundlers. the audience was reince priebus who attended the meeting. it was his rnc who hired the firm ran by the improprieties to run the voter registration efforts in five swing states. when that firm, ran by that guy with the shady past was inevitably accused of doing shady things this year with voter registration, the republican party in all of those states had to fire the firm which ended voter registration in the final crucial week before the election. there was no plan b. thanks, reince. the republicans just had to give up registering voters in those states. maybe that came up in today's meeting. also potentially on the menu today, the rnc field program, part of the ground effort that was just swamped this year. the republicans get out to vote technology crashed early on election day. one campaign telling the daily beast, everything about the system that was supposed to work actually failed. so these dozens of big-time republican dono
he was a chairman of mitt romney's campaign this year. he hosted a luncheon for big time republican bundlers. the audience was reince priebus who attended the meeting. it was his rnc who hired the firm ran by the improprieties to run the voter registration efforts in five swing states. when that firm, ran by that guy with the shady past was inevitably accused of doing shady things this year with voter registration, the republican party in all of those states had to fire the firm which ended...
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he came closes to any republican to dislodging mitt romney as presidential nominee here, had all of 28-cents in his campaign war shift. do you find any of this troubling? >> i do. for republicans to go out and concede on the revenue side. does washington need more revenue? yeah it does, looking at overall percentage of money of revenues that come in to federal government, than what has been average since world war ii, we're below that the argument should be, yeah, we need more revenue, but the question is, how do republicans historically, how do we argue, for more revenue? growth. we need more growth, if we have more growth, highest revenues we had in history of the -- since world war ii was 21 or 22% of gdp, what happened? tech boom, huge capital gains and start ups, and that is how we got revenue, it was not by raising taxes that is an argument we have with principle made and have been correct in making it. to now say, well, you know, president won and we have to concede that point. i'm not saying there can't be tax reform. but that should be an ending point not a starting point. nei
he came closes to any republican to dislodging mitt romney as presidential nominee here, had all of 28-cents in his campaign war shift. do you find any of this troubling? >> i do. for republicans to go out and concede on the revenue side. does washington need more revenue? yeah it does, looking at overall percentage of money of revenues that come in to federal government, than what has been average since world war ii, we're below that the argument should be, yeah, we need more revenue,...
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national convention in september, saying that president obama will be better for business than mitt romney, but just before that second obama term begins, he's getting a dividend. mr. senegal and the rest of the costco board voted this week to give themselves a special dividend, a 3 billion dollar christmas gift for shareholders that will allow them to be taxed at the current rate of 15% rather than next year's rate of over 40%. and costco is just one of many companies making these one-time cash payouts in a move that will save stocks holders like senegal unless in dividend taxes. and so, mary, turns out maybe taxes do influence investor behavior. what's the meaning of the great cashout of 2012? >> well, don't tax you, don't tax me, tax the guy behind the tree. >> paul: russell long, former late senator. >> exactly. and what you see here are very wealthy people who can, you know, engineer ways to avoid taxes, meanwhile, what he's-- the medicine he's suggesting for people who are starting to do better, people who say, make $200,000, maybe working their whole life. they're the ones who are g
national convention in september, saying that president obama will be better for business than mitt romney, but just before that second obama term begins, he's getting a dividend. mr. senegal and the rest of the costco board voted this week to give themselves a special dividend, a 3 billion dollar christmas gift for shareholders that will allow them to be taxed at the current rate of 15% rather than next year's rate of over 40%. and costco is just one of many companies making these one-time...
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romney did everything he could to water down his relationship with the ryan plan. and so it was -- it took a back seat. i just don't know that ryan is at a high eb of his influence and authority and one of the stronger cards that the republican party can play. one last point on the peg began noonan/ronald reagan stuff, politics has changed. the echo chamber of partisan media and pressures coming from twitter and blogs, and there's so much more information about what's happening on the hill and every negotiating faint is met with this enormous backlash. it's just not -- it doesn't work the way it used to and i don't think it is going to again. >> it ain't what it used to be. grab your apple pie at costco. i would grab -- i would grab -- i would note that i think paul ryan may be the only person in america who became a romneyest. apparently as pegeny noonan said, romney left no footprints in the sand. >> oh. >> coming up, the ten letter word that can grind washington to a halt, but can capitol hill clean up the dirty mess that is the filibuster. we will ask our very
romney did everything he could to water down his relationship with the ryan plan. and so it was -- it took a back seat. i just don't know that ryan is at a high eb of his influence and authority and one of the stronger cards that the republican party can play. one last point on the peg began noonan/ronald reagan stuff, politics has changed. the echo chamber of partisan media and pressures coming from twitter and blogs, and there's so much more information about what's happening on the hill and...
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though interestingly, it didn't work for mitt romney. he said i can raise "x" billion, he said $800 billion, by closing undisclosed loopholes and tax expenditures, but once you get down to the level of specifics and you say, i want to close the charitable deduction, i want to close the mortgage interest deduction, i want to close the state and local deduction, then you awake a lot of o opponents for whom your loophole is their treasured program. that's are not scorable, addible numbers at all and the president is correct to say, look, we've got weeks -- we're weeks out from the fiscal cliff. bring to me a deal we can start negotiating. >> david, karen was saying earlier she feel that is speaker boehner doesn't really have a lot of leverage or room for maneuver. we've all been focused on the president's assertion that the tax rates for the top 2% are going up but that's not the only thing that the president wants to alive is it? because he also wants to prevent these periodic fights over the debt ceiling. he's had enough of that, hasn't h
though interestingly, it didn't work for mitt romney. he said i can raise "x" billion, he said $800 billion, by closing undisclosed loopholes and tax expenditures, but once you get down to the level of specifics and you say, i want to close the charitable deduction, i want to close the mortgage interest deduction, i want to close the state and local deduction, then you awake a lot of o opponents for whom your loophole is their treasured program. that's are not scorable, addible...
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romney goes to washington. he'll dine today at 1600 pennsylvania avenue at the invitation of the president himself. the question, is there a grander purpose behind their lunch date. >> is governor romney here tomorrow in some kind of cabinet level position, an audition for that position? >> no. >> so joining me now from the white house is kristen welker. so romney's people, however, they're not backing off controversial suggestions about how the president won re-election. romney chief strategist sue teachs explains romney lost essentially by suggesting that the president was black and that poor people voted overwhelmingly for him, not exactly a positive tone ahead of this luncheon. we all know that there ain't no free lunch. so what is this all about? >> well, remember it also comes on the heels of mitt romney making those gift comments, essentially suggesting president obama won re-election because he gave his core constituents gifts. so not necessarily a positive tone to start the meeting. but this is really
romney goes to washington. he'll dine today at 1600 pennsylvania avenue at the invitation of the president himself. the question, is there a grander purpose behind their lunch date. >> is governor romney here tomorrow in some kind of cabinet level position, an audition for that position? >> no. >> so joining me now from the white house is kristen welker. so romney's people, however, they're not backing off controversial suggestions about how the president won re-election....
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mitt romney proved that. but the republican party is now saying, look. there's not going to be a charismatic black candidate on the republican side in 2016. we don't have to worry. they do have to worry. minorities are in the middle class are very capable of voting for people other than charismatic black candidates. they have not had much choice in the past. the republican party can't sit back and say, well, in 2016, this will fall in our laps and be okay again. they have to be dynamic and simply change policies to attract more voters. >> roger simon, thank you very much. what a column you have written. everyone should check it out. thanks, roger. >> thanks, tamron, as always. >> absolutely. >>> the photographer that took a picture of a man pushed to his deaths rather than reach out to help him. he's defending the decision to take the picture. >> whether i had a camera or not and i was running towards it, there is no way i could have rescued mr. han. >> i'll talk with congresswoman schwartz last week calling on mr. boehner to meet with the president. now
mitt romney proved that. but the republican party is now saying, look. there's not going to be a charismatic black candidate on the republican side in 2016. we don't have to worry. they do have to worry. minorities are in the middle class are very capable of voting for people other than charismatic black candidates. they have not had much choice in the past. the republican party can't sit back and say, well, in 2016, this will fall in our laps and be okay again. they have to be dynamic and...
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hard to imagine romney himself believed these internal polls. >> apparently so. again, they had so deluded themselves about the reality of who this country is and what this country is about, again, it goes to they kept telling us we were just imagining the war on women and yet we were still talking about vaginal probes and legitimate rape. they truly convinced themselves, either that or it's abject malpractice on the part of their pollsters, they convinced themselves that those numbers of young people, african-american, latino wouldn't matter. just like they're kind of doing now. they're trying to convince themselves, people love the ryan budget, so, of course, we're going to fight the president. people don't love the ryan budget. we voted against it. >> exactly. we've been saying that all hour. per perry, romney continues with the delusion. he now says the president won by handing out gifts. but, in fact, it was the gop that was given the gift of citizens united, a terrible economy, and even voter i.d. laws in no fewer than 13 states and they still lost. >> exac
hard to imagine romney himself believed these internal polls. >> apparently so. again, they had so deluded themselves about the reality of who this country is and what this country is about, again, it goes to they kept telling us we were just imagining the war on women and yet we were still talking about vaginal probes and legitimate rape. they truly convinced themselves, either that or it's abject malpractice on the part of their pollsters, they convinced themselves that those numbers of...
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it's the same kind of happy thinking that led to some boldly predicting a romney victory." he ended the column by saying "republicans are so screwed." this is why president obama is playing to his strengths. the president has never had a problem rallying the american people to his side. >> understand this was a central question in the election. maybe thee central question in the election. you remember. we talked about this a lot. >> republicans are furious because they can't control this conversation. americans know where they stand on tax fairness and republicans are on the losing end. it's been a rough week. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question. who has the upper hand in the fiscal cliff negotiations at this point? text "a" for president obama, text "b" for the republicans to 622639. always go to our blog at ed.msn ed.msnbc.com and leave a comment. we encourage you to do that. we'll bring you the results later on in the show. i'm joined tonight by sam stein, political reporter for "the huffington post." don't you dare give me a hard
it's the same kind of happy thinking that led to some boldly predicting a romney victory." he ended the column by saying "republicans are so screwed." this is why president obama is playing to his strengths. the president has never had a problem rallying the american people to his side. >> understand this was a central question in the election. maybe thee central question in the election. you remember. we talked about this a lot. >> republicans are furious because...
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they sound a lot like the arguments that mitt romney was making during the campaign that americans roundly rejected. for them to cling to that rhetoric doesn't make sense. they've had time to make their case and they're losing american people. the president has been very firm from the beginning, he's been very consistent across the board with members of congress, the business community, progressive leaders, you name it, all the different folks he's brought in to talk about this, he's been very consistent. he's not playing a game and i think you got a taste of that yesterday in his remarks to the business roundtable. he's not kidding. he's put some serious things on the table, he's put his plans out there, it's balanced, there's spending, he's willing to make a deal but he is not willing to have any kind of conversation that does not include raising rates and he's unwilling to put raising the debt ceiling in as part of this package and i think he's not going to move from that. >> let's look at the examination that's going into the strategy coming from the white house. rich lowrie calls the
they sound a lot like the arguments that mitt romney was making during the campaign that americans roundly rejected. for them to cling to that rhetoric doesn't make sense. they've had time to make their case and they're losing american people. the president has been very firm from the beginning, he's been very consistent across the board with members of congress, the business community, progressive leaders, you name it, all the different folks he's brought in to talk about this, he's been very...
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was that mitt romney didn't have a republican base. what he's basically say ising not only do i have a base, i have the tea party base. this is actually where i actually don't completely agree with joy. i think what boehner is recognizing is that the tea party is actually sunsetting. it's not as strong as it was. by him basically removing these folks from leadership, he's finding his swagger back and saying you're going to have to come with me because otherwise there isn't going to be a tea party because if we own want to be a party of winning congress but not the senate or the congress, we'll continue going down that direction. he's continuing to try to herd cats but look at the global perspective and coming back more to the center right. >> joy, here is how bad it's gotten for the gop. we saw in a poll that herman cain is ahead of saxby chambliss por the 2014 senate primary by get this, 14 points. don't tell me we could be looking at senator herman cain in two years' time. >> this is the point. you still do have these three wings of
was that mitt romney didn't have a republican base. what he's basically say ising not only do i have a base, i have the tea party base. this is actually where i actually don't completely agree with joy. i think what boehner is recognizing is that the tea party is actually sunsetting. it's not as strong as it was. by him basically removing these folks from leadership, he's finding his swagger back and saying you're going to have to come with me because otherwise there isn't going to be a tea...
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isn't a romney wing of the republican party. it's not like he can bring to bear constituency beyond maybe wall street. that wing of the party was more his niche. but the president can sort of talk to other people in the wall street wing. you know, he had some ceos over to the white house the other day. some of them represent that wing just as much as or more than mitt romney. so i think the awkward position romney is in is that he is sort of a man without a country politically. so i'm not sure what he himself could do. but i think the gesture was important because it does sort of represent sort of the marching on of democracy in the u.s. i think it was important from that standpoint, but i don't think we'll see much of mitt romney. >> joy-ann reid, great to see you. molly ball, thank you. >>> also today, israel says the u.n. vote recognizing palestine as a state is, quote, meaningless. the general assembly voted overwhelmingly yesterday 138-9 to give palestine status as a nonmember observer state. the united states voted against
isn't a romney wing of the republican party. it's not like he can bring to bear constituency beyond maybe wall street. that wing of the party was more his niche. but the president can sort of talk to other people in the wall street wing. you know, he had some ceos over to the white house the other day. some of them represent that wing just as much as or more than mitt romney. so i think the awkward position romney is in is that he is sort of a man without a country politically. so i'm not sure...
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over the last wecht the romney numbers showed romney gained strong momentum. in wisconsin he lost 4 points as romney gained 4 tied up the race. in new hampshire obama lost four while he gained three. he was talking to romney's sun tagg. as the results were coming in, quote, he looked like he was in a complete state of shock as if these numbers cannot be real. to make matters worse, florida and virginia, two states romney lost, he was told were in the bag. john braybender is an adviser to rick santorum. i want to start with you, john. you're on the inside. you know something about this. do you understand how somebody would think that the electorate that's going to participate in 2012 in a general election with barack obama, an african-american, a democrat, and a relatively popular president would create a different electorate than one in 2010 or pry mire situation? >> as you know, every poll starts with an assumption. here's who we think is going to show up and vote, therefore that's who we ask the question of. romney -- not just the republican campaign but rep
over the last wecht the romney numbers showed romney gained strong momentum. in wisconsin he lost 4 points as romney gained 4 tied up the race. in new hampshire obama lost four while he gained three. he was talking to romney's sun tagg. as the results were coming in, quote, he looked like he was in a complete state of shock as if these numbers cannot be real. to make matters worse, florida and virginia, two states romney lost, he was told were in the bag. john braybender is an adviser to rick...
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it's the mitt romney plan again. the offer letter actually described the proposal as the bowles plan. republicans say the plan is based on the outline for the debt commission co-chair. the approach outlined in the letter speaker boehner sent to the president does not represent the simpson-bowles plan nor is it the bowles plan. the white house also rejected the offer in a statement today. the republican letter released today does not meet the test of balance. in fact, it actually promises to lower rates for the wealthiest americans and sticks the middle class with the bill. their plan includes nothing new and provides no details on which e deductions they would eliminate, which loopholes they would close or which medicare savings they would achieve. hold it right there, folks. loopholes, aren't we tired of hearing about loopholes? timothy geithner made appearances on all the sunday talk shows to hammer home the specifics of the white house plan. republicans tried to counter his presence using their favorite media sour
it's the mitt romney plan again. the offer letter actually described the proposal as the bowles plan. republicans say the plan is based on the outline for the debt commission co-chair. the approach outlined in the letter speaker boehner sent to the president does not represent the simpson-bowles plan nor is it the bowles plan. the white house also rejected the offer in a statement today. the republican letter released today does not meet the test of balance. in fact, it actually promises to...
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or mitt romney saying, big bird, that i'll cut. you put a list out of spending cuts and you immediately get under attack. some of the increase clearly is something that the republicans agree with, which is to deal with the compensation being given to doctors, reimbursement. >> arthel: the so-called dock fix you're talking about. >> yeah. and so i think what's going to happen eventually is that both sides probably in closed door sessions, where you and i nay not know what's going on, are going to have to sit there on a bipartisan basis so that nobody gets the blame and come up with some spending cuts. the truth is that even if you hate billionaires, there aren't enough of them. you can't raise taxes enough to get us out of this crisis solely on the basis of revenue increases. >> arthel: you're feeling at this point, as we sit here, december 1, that political posturing will take a back seat to pragmatism? >> well, let's not go too far, art. we're talking about washington, d.c. and i think there is going to be plenty of political post
or mitt romney saying, big bird, that i'll cut. you put a list out of spending cuts and you immediately get under attack. some of the increase clearly is something that the republicans agree with, which is to deal with the compensation being given to doctors, reimbursement. >> arthel: the so-called dock fix you're talking about. >> yeah. and so i think what's going to happen eventually is that both sides probably in closed door sessions, where you and i nay not know what's going on,...
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. >> president obama won 71% of the latino vote we heard romney campaign manager saying he regretted running hard to the right in the primary. the opposing view is the gop's latino problem isn't based on immigration issues. there's a pew exit poll of hispanic voters taken in november found immigration isn't in the top four issues. is too much made a political issue how important it is to the political community? >> number one, if you ask latinos what is the most important thing, my job, the economy, educating my children, crime. before the latino audiences, political audiences will listen to you as a candidate. you first cannot be mean, nasty, spirited towards immigrants. if you are they simply shut you off. so i think the problem that the republicans had is latinos said you're being so unfair, you're being so anti-immigrant, we feel personally offended by that and plus it is part of our core value. they just don't listen, so i think it was critical to the republican message that people weren't listening, they weren't buying in because they won't tune in if you're in that mean. >> th
. >> president obama won 71% of the latino vote we heard romney campaign manager saying he regretted running hard to the right in the primary. the opposing view is the gop's latino problem isn't based on immigration issues. there's a pew exit poll of hispanic voters taken in november found immigration isn't in the top four issues. is too much made a political issue how important it is to the political community? >> number one, if you ask latinos what is the most important thing, my...
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clearly mitt romney is not going to be be party leader. they don't actually have one and you watch the wilderness fight for a while. >> candy, i hate to say this because i know we all want to play along with 2016. i think part of the problem in washington is everyone is focused on next election. it's always an excuse not to get something done. i think the american people think we just went through an election now that you all have jobs can we solve problems and get something done. 2016 will be here way too soon and people are already running for office on both sides. honestly, i wish people would remember whatever party they're in you got elected this time a month ago to do a job and there's a big job to do. >> washington is so dysfunctional. only washington, d.c. is talking about 2016. the rest of the country is trying to create jobs. they're trying to get their kids off to school. they're trying to make payments on their house and car. washington 2016 completely out of touch. >> i know you attended the dinner i was unable to go to. there
clearly mitt romney is not going to be be party leader. they don't actually have one and you watch the wilderness fight for a while. >> candy, i hate to say this because i know we all want to play along with 2016. i think part of the problem in washington is everyone is focused on next election. it's always an excuse not to get something done. i think the american people think we just went through an election now that you all have jobs can we solve problems and get something done. 2016...
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the magazine quotes a romney aide on election night talking to romney's son tagg as the results were coming in. he looked like he was in a complete state of shock, as if these numbers cannot be real. to make matters worse, their polling told them florida and virginia, two states that romney lost, were in the bag. the republican party is left asking itself what went wrong and how they fix it. john brabender is a republican strategist and top adviser to rick santorum, and robert shrum, democratic strategist and columnist for the daily beast. john, you're on the inside. you know something about this. do you understand how somebody would think that the electorate that's going to participate in 2012, in a general election with barack obama, an african-american, a democrat, and a relatively popular president, would create a different electorate than the one you saw say in 2010 or in a primary situation? >> well, i think -- as you know, every poll starts with an assumption. here is who we think is going to show up and vote. therefore, that's who we ask the question of. republicans, and not
the magazine quotes a romney aide on election night talking to romney's son tagg as the results were coming in. he looked like he was in a complete state of shock, as if these numbers cannot be real. to make matters worse, their polling told them florida and virginia, two states that romney lost, were in the bag. the republican party is left asking itself what went wrong and how they fix it. john brabender is a republican strategist and top adviser to rick santorum, and robert shrum, democratic...
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governor romney does visiting here? all because mitt romney was in a serious order taken it seriously? that he was the butt of more jokes. david brennan is on the phone right now. thanks for joining. >> thank you. neil: you have seen the studies. remember, they broke down the juxtaposition of jokes you and it was something like 10 to one, making fun of romney. >> i think first of all you have to know that the comedian's lean left anyway. always. i mean, they are basically -- even though they try to balance that, they are going to make fun of the other guy who is running against a democrat. but in spite of that, it doesn't matter. you know, look at george w. bush. talk about a walking talking joke. the second time that he ran -- were you kidding me? all he had to do was repeat what he said and people were screaming. neil: and he got reelected. >> and he got reelected i will say that that is right. i do think it was overly disproportionate and part of my thinking is that everything that mitt romney would do or say became
governor romney does visiting here? all because mitt romney was in a serious order taken it seriously? that he was the butt of more jokes. david brennan is on the phone right now. thanks for joining. >> thank you. neil: you have seen the studies. remember, they broke down the juxtaposition of jokes you and it was something like 10 to one, making fun of romney. >> i think first of all you have to know that the comedian's lean left anyway. always. i mean, they are basically -- even...
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. >> greg: if romney was president, different story. he'd be i peached. >> andrea: it was the ambassador's fault? he wasn't supposed to be there? >> bob: you called it an embassy. >> andrea: consulate. british embassy was bombed before and that should have triggered to us secure our own. >> bob: bomb in libya. there's a surprise. >> greg: coming up, from devil to diplomat. the inspiration for devil in "del wears prada." now obama may give editor anna winter a new title. as the u.s. ambassador. details ahead on five five. ♪ ♪ [ female announcer ] the humana walmart-preferred rx plan p-d-p gives you a low $18.50 monthly plan premium... and select generic hypertension drugs available for only a penny... so you can focus on what really matters. call humana at 1-800-808-4003. >>> i'm bret baier. tonight on "special report," they say if the g.o.p. does not give in and accept a tax rate increase on high earners the president will let the nation go over the fiscal cliff and blame republicans. the president put it in his own words tonight. n
. >> greg: if romney was president, different story. he'd be i peached. >> andrea: it was the ambassador's fault? he wasn't supposed to be there? >> bob: you called it an embassy. >> andrea: consulate. british embassy was bombed before and that should have triggered to us secure our own. >> bob: bomb in libya. there's a surprise. >> greg: coming up, from devil to diplomat. the inspiration for devil in "del wears prada." now obama may give editor...
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ann romney mentioned their trips to costco. they filled two carts worth of goodies, paper plate -- vice president biden is a card carrying member. he went shopping at a new store in washington, d.c. >>> if the 2016 presidential election were held today, secretary of state hillary clinton would be a shoo-in. according to a new "washington post"/abc news poll 57% would support clinton to succeed president obama. 37% would not. ted nugent weighs in on the fiscal cliff fiasco something he said we drove off a long time ago. he writes in "the washington times" social security, medicaid and medicare spending needs to be slaughtered and let's stop the insanity of the right to vote of any american on welfare. once they get off well taer and are self-sustaining they get their right restored. no american on welfare should have the right to vote for tax increases on those americans working and paying taxes to support them. >>> and "the daily show's" jon stewart says maybe we should go off the fiscal cliff. >> back and forth of offers. it's
ann romney mentioned their trips to costco. they filled two carts worth of goodies, paper plate -- vice president biden is a card carrying member. he went shopping at a new store in washington, d.c. >>> if the 2016 presidential election were held today, secretary of state hillary clinton would be a shoo-in. according to a new "washington post"/abc news poll 57% would support clinton to succeed president obama. 37% would not. ted nugent weighs in on the fiscal cliff fiasco...
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mitt romney not far behind that. is it possible to raise the money to run the campaign. >> it is difficult if you are not in the system. peggy is right and the electorate would embrace the wilke or perot type figure . raising the money and putting together the political structure and energy to do what is necessary in the campaign. dana, it is hard for somebody who is never been in the process and you have seen it first hand and you know how tough it is . tough for somebody with no experience to come in and do it. >> compeeling and convincing. doug and peggy. >> thank you so much. coming up later in the show, we'll meet a grouch -- group of hurricane sandy victims. i get to do something in the question and answer session with the audience, next . humans. even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why at liberty mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car replacement and accident forgiveness if you qualify. see what else comes standard at libertymutual.c
mitt romney not far behind that. is it possible to raise the money to run the campaign. >> it is difficult if you are not in the system. peggy is right and the electorate would embrace the wilke or perot type figure . raising the money and putting together the political structure and energy to do what is necessary in the campaign. dana, it is hard for somebody who is never been in the process and you have seen it first hand and you know how tough it is . tough for somebody with no...
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it didn't add up with mitt romney. it doesn't add up today. >> it doesn't add up, and those targeted revenue measures serve certain goals that we actually care about more than helping billionaires. those goals include what you just said, incentivizing charitable giving, and also home ownership, which is a middle to upper class benefit, but it's one that we've always encouraged with the mortgage interest rate deduction because we want people moving into the middle class. that matters more, that is better than just worrying about billionaires. one other point i want to hit since we're on the martin bashir show, i know this is a place for real talk so if we can have some real talk for a second. there is no fiscal cliff. there's no special deadline. these are long-term debates. you were asking mr. russert about the past negotiations because these are debates we've had in the past that we will continue to have in the future. some people would rather solve them in the bottom of the ninth. that would be better. but if we go i
it didn't add up with mitt romney. it doesn't add up today. >> it doesn't add up, and those targeted revenue measures serve certain goals that we actually care about more than helping billionaires. those goals include what you just said, incentivizing charitable giving, and also home ownership, which is a middle to upper class benefit, but it's one that we've always encouraged with the mortgage interest rate deduction because we want people moving into the middle class. that matters more,...
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you know, it was the big issue between him and romney and they said just as he had to cave after your victory in the 2010 mid-terms, now it's your turn to cave on tax rates. >> listen, what's the difference where the money comes from? we put $800 billion worth of revenue, which is what he's asking for, out of eliminating the top two tax rates. but here's the problem, chris. when you go and increase tax rates, you make it more difficult for our economy to grow. half of that income is small business income. it's going to get taxed at a higher rate. as a result we are going to see slower economic growth. we aren't going to be able to cut our way out of this problem, nor can we just grow our way out of the problem. we have to have a balanced approach. what the president wants to do is slow our economy at a time he wants the economy to grow and create jobs. >> the white house says that while you have given this kind of talk about, well, let's close loopholes, let's limit deductions, you haven't offered any specifics, have you? >> we've laid it all out for him a dozen different ways you can
you know, it was the big issue between him and romney and they said just as he had to cave after your victory in the 2010 mid-terms, now it's your turn to cave on tax rates. >> listen, what's the difference where the money comes from? we put $800 billion worth of revenue, which is what he's asking for, out of eliminating the top two tax rates. but here's the problem, chris. when you go and increase tax rates, you make it more difficult for our economy to grow. half of that income is small...
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didn't work for romney. people were not interested in that. i don't really see what interest the white house has in making a deal. so far all the public polling makes it look like, again, this could change, but all the public polling makes it look if we go over the cliff the republicans will be blamed and they're the ones being recalcitrant and the white house can make a deal on their terms because they won. >> in terms of who's going to get blamed if we go over the cliff, ari, is there a risk as the republicans put forth a plan f you're john public, does that seem like a reasonable offer? i don't know. they're playing ball. do the democrats risk getting blamed if we go over the fiscal cliff now that there is a counter offer from the gop? >> that's the interesting question. connects with what ezra was talking about. do the actual sacrifices happen in your backyard and do they happen in the backyard of wealthy people who are a big part of the base of both of these parties let's be honest. you quoted mark thiessen quoting biggy smalls saying don
didn't work for romney. people were not interested in that. i don't really see what interest the white house has in making a deal. so far all the public polling makes it look like, again, this could change, but all the public polling makes it look if we go over the cliff the republicans will be blamed and they're the ones being recalcitrant and the white house can make a deal on their terms because they won. >> in terms of who's going to get blamed if we go over the cliff, ari, is there a...
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i mean ryan -- with the ryan/romney ads were downright hypocritical and the president has greater political strength coming out of this and he's got his own plan and he's been specific on his own terms and i think when geithner sits around uttering the same talking point over and over again about tell us what you're talking about, i think it's a fair thing to do. i think the president has a political strength right now to force the republicans to offer their own very unpopular -- >> we'll see. that's what's going to get played out over the next few weeks. >> it's chicken. >> he has more leverage. doesn't have all the leverage. >> he sass some. >> he's coming out strong. >> what leverage do the republicans -- i mean yes, they have some. >> they control the house. >> yes. >> that is the fact. >> but -- the reason that john boehner doesn't have very much leverage in these discussions is he doesn't really control his own caucus. >> that's true. >> and he's not a terribly reliable negotiating partner. >> john boehner does have within his caucus a certain number of votes in his pocket that will w
i mean ryan -- with the ryan/romney ads were downright hypocritical and the president has greater political strength coming out of this and he's got his own plan and he's been specific on his own terms and i think when geithner sits around uttering the same talking point over and over again about tell us what you're talking about, i think it's a fair thing to do. i think the president has a political strength right now to force the republicans to offer their own very unpopular -- >> we'll...
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>> because they know that if they elect romney, that's not going to come to an end. they're not going to suddenly -- >> that's baked into the structure of the american economy? >> they're being given a choice between an economy which has been fantastic for them. labor has done really badly. they're saying, the current situation is great for us. but now we have two choices, between great and even better. are and given the choice, they'll take even better. >> and you talk about liberal pieties or whatever, the hatred of unions. i think that people underestimate, don't get -- and i've encountered this in my reporting, how visceral, almost dogmatic, almost religious and ideological, how fervently that belief is and how common that is among people who make a ton of money. >> it's one of the few times that you find a vague semblance of ideology in these people. because they're very practical, most of the time. whatever works in terms of making money is what they'll all choose. but you're right, sometimes even when you show them the numbers and say, listen, recognizing unio
>> because they know that if they elect romney, that's not going to come to an end. they're not going to suddenly -- >> that's baked into the structure of the american economy? >> they're being given a choice between an economy which has been fantastic for them. labor has done really badly. they're saying, the current situation is great for us. but now we have two choices, between great and even better. are and given the choice, they'll take even better. >> and you talk...
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romney poll is off by over 9. ouch. in colorado within romney poll had romney up 2.5 points. obama won by 5.4. romney poll off by almost 8. again, ouch. in iowa, a tie. romney won by almost 6 points. in minnesota, romney poll showed romney up by 4. he won by 7.7. in wisconsin, showing obama up by 4. he won by 6.8. in pennsylvania the romney poll showed obama up three points. he won by 5.4. so these are big swings. this isn't a little bit off. so the question becomes, why were the romney numberes so very off? the reporter who got the polling data posed that question to romney polster neil newhouse. he said, quote, i'm not sure what answer is, newhouse said. his future client may want to know that. he said his polls were more accurate than most of the other swing states. though there was a knowledge of the electior yit. he said the colorado latino vote was challenging as it was in florida. the romney campaign also stemmed in part from the voter intensity. their polls asked voters how interested they were in the election on a scale of 1-10. voters who scored 8, 9 or 10 romney le
romney poll is off by over 9. ouch. in colorado within romney poll had romney up 2.5 points. obama won by 5.4. romney poll off by almost 8. again, ouch. in iowa, a tie. romney won by almost 6 points. in minnesota, romney poll showed romney up by 4. he won by 7.7. in wisconsin, showing obama up by 4. he won by 6.8. in pennsylvania the romney poll showed obama up three points. he won by 5.4. so these are big swings. this isn't a little bit off. so the question becomes, why were the romney...
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as for how much romney will earn, s.e.c. showed that directors received a base pay of $60,000 plus $1250 for every meeting they attended. romney has a long-time friendship with the members of marriott family and has served on the board off and on since 1993. >>> all right. time for the "news nation" gut check. bloomberg news is reporting that president obama is considering "vogue" anna wintor to be the next u.s. ambassador to the uk or france. she raised $500,000 for his re-election campaign. she's been at "vogue" for more than 25 years and they say she's very happy about the current job. the white house was asked about the report and declined comment on it. do you believe the bloomberg report that anna winter is being considered as a possible u.s. ambassador? go to facebook.com/newsnation to cast that vote. that does it for this edition of "news nation." thank you for joining us. tomorrow we have a nice show for you. pennsylvania congresswoman allyson schwartz and john yarmuth. we'll get their insight. "the cycle" is up nex
as for how much romney will earn, s.e.c. showed that directors received a base pay of $60,000 plus $1250 for every meeting they attended. romney has a long-time friendship with the members of marriott family and has served on the board off and on since 1993. >>> all right. time for the "news nation" gut check. bloomberg news is reporting that president obama is considering "vogue" anna wintor to be the next u.s. ambassador to the uk or france. she raised $500,000...
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the big one, romney's decision to pick congressman paul ryan as his running mate. axle rod also says that he was surprised the pro-romney super pacs waited so late to launch attack ads. the romney campaign should have done a better job defining their candidate instead of leaving a vacuum for the obama campaign to fill in, they filled it in pretty early. molly ball, national political reporter for "the atlantic." lynn sweet, chief for "chicago sun-times." you wrote about this and you also say that the obama campaign is engaging supporters about how to move forward. even conducting a post-election survey of sorts. what do you know? >> we know that more than one million of the supporters answered it and we already know that this big obama army is working on fiscal cliff matters where they're sgogoing to be, t are mobilized to help support the president's plan to get the tax breaks in first, but we're learning history, finally. we're getting it in the first david alex raxlerod is talking he never thought that paul ryan would be the vice president pick. >> who did he th
the big one, romney's decision to pick congressman paul ryan as his running mate. axle rod also says that he was surprised the pro-romney super pacs waited so late to launch attack ads. the romney campaign should have done a better job defining their candidate instead of leaving a vacuum for the obama campaign to fill in, they filled it in pretty early. molly ball, national political reporter for "the atlantic." lynn sweet, chief for "chicago sun-times." you wrote about this...
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they did not get a president romney. they still have a president obama. but now they're at the president obama white house almost every week meeting with president obama. and i understand that he wants them to help him get his general accomplished. i understand that. what about the other direction? the fact that they're getting all this face time with the president. does that mean they're getting their agenda, too? well, you can judge for yourself in small ways. we're told that a senator elizabeth warren of massachusetts is about to get a seat on the senate banking committee. it's not official yet but one aide says it is, quote, likely. this of course has the banking world, the financial industry in a tissy. this is not what they wanted. they did not want a new sheriff on wall street. one democratic aide describing them as, quote, going nuts over this. but going nuts does not necessarily mean you get what you want. especially not when the horse you bet on so boldly lost so badly. it also means that working goat some things doesn't mean you have to work to
they did not get a president romney. they still have a president obama. but now they're at the president obama white house almost every week meeting with president obama. and i understand that he wants them to help him get his general accomplished. i understand that. what about the other direction? the fact that they're getting all this face time with the president. does that mean they're getting their agenda, too? well, you can judge for yourself in small ways. we're told that a senator...
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first, the great irony here is four weeks ago, mitt romney and paul ryan and republicans are pummeling the president for $716 billion for medicare savings that extended the life of medicare. they said they want to add all the costs back in. hopefully they are back to the position of the ryan budget to recognize they're important savings. number one. number two, the president's plan, budget, contains medicare savings than the ryan-republican plan did. we'd like to see the specifics, what are they proposing with respect to cuts to medicare? >> we can go around the healthcare barnyard again and again, about how you can't spend that money twice. and how medicare actuary said that. the $716 billion. you can either use it to shore up medicare or use it to pay for obamacare. >> right. right. but the fact is the position that mitt romney took as a presidential candidate was to put all of those costs back in to medicare. which would have meant it went insolvent eight years sooner. >> bret: but we're not talking about romney anymore. we're talking what about you'll do to find a solution going fo
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. >> that was romney's plan. lower tax rates, cut some deductions and what are you doing. >> bowles simpson, a democrat. he did the deal with the newt gingrich and bill clinton. you c . stuart: stop smiling. >> every democrat sitting right% there has said the same thing. remember bill clinton. he raised tax rates and it sent off a boom. you don't agree with that? >> i do agree with it, but he also reformed welfare. he was also willing to rein in modestly entitlements and do things on a comprehensive basis, it worked and paid huge dividends. stuart: i've got 30 seconds. >> yes. stuart: are we going to get a fiscal cliff avoid dan deal? >> we may get some form of a deal. we are not going to get a real deal. i think the economy is going to be hurt and i think both sides, especially the president deserve blame. stuart: who will get the blame? >> the republicans clearly are going to get the blame and hurting themselves. stuart: but we may go into a much slower economy and hurts the president. >> bad news for the presi
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this year mitt romney got a measly 28%. if he had gotten even 35% he would have won the pop already vote, mitt romney, and maybe the presidential election. so for the first time it can be said conclusively, but probably not the last time, the latino vote was decisive in this election. bearing that in mind here is craig with the senior latino senator, bob menendez, democrat of new jersey. >> i think what was incredibly encouraging was to see a significant increase in latino turnout. >> senator men anyone des, -- menendez when you learned the latino vote was the decides factor in the leaks, what was your reaction? >> a coming of aim. -- coming of age, this community has grown so in the country. served in the armed forces of the united states over many, many wores, contributed economically, finally here was the constantly referred to sleeping giant awakening. >> the awakened giant was enormous. 71% of the vote. making the difference in states like florida, virginia, new mexico, and colorado. and all exit polling saying the dif
this year mitt romney got a measly 28%. if he had gotten even 35% he would have won the pop already vote, mitt romney, and maybe the presidential election. so for the first time it can be said conclusively, but probably not the last time, the latino vote was decisive in this election. bearing that in mind here is craig with the senior latino senator, bob menendez, democrat of new jersey. >> i think what was incredibly encouraging was to see a significant increase in latino turnout....
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so where is mitt romney? he's out of sight at his house in california, totally cutting himself from the public and his party. "the washington post" says, quote, romney hangs around the house, sometimes alone, pecking away at his ipad, his rapid retreat into seclusion has been marked by repressed emotions, second guessing, and sustained boredom. it also says, romney has told friends he has no interest in helping the republican party rebuild and rebrand itself. so romney's gone, santorum has gone birther, and until something changes, the gop may be gone for good. joining me now is republican pollster christian saltise, vice president of the wednesday group. and erin mcpike, reporter with real clear politics. thank you both for joining me. >> thank you. >> thanks for having us. >> christian, let me start with you. is the gop in trouble as they figure things out? >> i think there's a lot of work to be done. so this 2012 election is proof that it's not 2004 again. we really got the best campaign that they had to o
so where is mitt romney? he's out of sight at his house in california, totally cutting himself from the public and his party. "the washington post" says, quote, romney hangs around the house, sometimes alone, pecking away at his ipad, his rapid retreat into seclusion has been marked by repressed emotions, second guessing, and sustained boredom. it also says, romney has told friends he has no interest in helping the republican party rebuild and rebrand itself. so romney's gone,...
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it was romney. >> i think in many ways it was romney. and as steven pointed out, he came in with no ideology and no way to communicate. >> you believe he was believed? did people believe he believed what he said? >> no. >> that's what i think was the problem. >> that was one of his problems but -- >> they don't believe he was saying anything more than what he thought would win the election. >> he got beat by women by 14 points. you cannot win -- when you give big blocks of the electorate away, which republicans are now doing, you can't win. >> ronald reagan was elected president. he ran a powerfully smart campaign. although he was pro-life, although he was pretty hawkish on foreign policy, he focused on jobs. he focused on the economy. and he was disciplined. so people sort of got the message, wink, wink, yeah, i'm pro-life, but i'm not going to change the law. in california he didn't sign a pro-choice position. he wasn't anti-gay. in other words, the emphasis he put on the job creation and the economy is what got him elected. your guy t
it was romney. >> i think in many ways it was romney. and as steven pointed out, he came in with no ideology and no way to communicate. >> you believe he was believed? did people believe he believed what he said? >> no. >> that's what i think was the problem. >> that was one of his problems but -- >> they don't believe he was saying anything more than what he thought would win the election. >> he got beat by women by 14 points. you cannot win -- when...
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governor romney has served on the board twice before. dennis: no word whether his bank account makes him less qualified of a candidate on that one. microsoft hoping to take a bite out of apple's ipad business. the high price could be more than some customers can swallow. shiiani joshi joins us now with a fabulous new haircut. shibani: you didn't notice last week, apparently. some backlash going on against microsoft today. you would think the company would price its new tablet line a little more aggressively considering it will have to compete with apple and its ipad. the company revealing a few months after the initial appearance of the surface. they will come with a pretty hefty price tag associated with them. it is a 64 gigabyte model with a price tag at $899. the pro which is a 128 gigabyte model is $999. the 64 gigabyte ipod will run you $829 or $70 less than what microsoft is charging you. you can also bite and ipod mini for $329. it apparently is not trying to compete on price. they are focusing on the pretty interesting features t
governor romney has served on the board twice before. dennis: no word whether his bank account makes him less qualified of a candidate on that one. microsoft hoping to take a bite out of apple's ipad business. the high price could be more than some customers can swallow. shiiani joshi joins us now with a fabulous new haircut. shibani: you didn't notice last week, apparently. some backlash going on against microsoft today. you would think the company would price its new tablet line a little more...
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it's clear governor romney has written off politics. otherwise why would he make the gifts comment unless maybe he's in deep denial of what happened. but it's clear, his time as leader of the republican party is done, is over. again, the polls were barely closed on election night before the party was already moving beyond him. a columnist at new york magazine who wrote that there are no romneyites, no one within the republican party to carry the romney banner into 2014 and 2016. the party's moved beyond him. they're all focused on christie, jindal, ryan, rubio, any other person in the republican party in a governorship or high up in the senate who could possibly run for president in 2016. they're focused on him, not romney. >> maybe bobby jindal will welcome ted nugent. gentlemen, thank you so much. next, 98% of americans, as some like to say, are hostages. stay with us. >> shelly taylor, lead researcher says peopleç as the age lose that gut feeling that, hey, something's wrong here. >> who would have thought that elderly fox news vie
it's clear governor romney has written off politics. otherwise why would he make the gifts comment unless maybe he's in deep denial of what happened. but it's clear, his time as leader of the republican party is done, is over. again, the polls were barely closed on election night before the party was already moving beyond him. a columnist at new york magazine who wrote that there are no romneyites, no one within the republican party to carry the romney banner into 2014 and 2016. the party's...